Comments on: Southland Golf Magazine – Hip turns and instruction

By: alanceh

alanceh — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:10:43 +0000

what happens when i’m in the right tree line off the tee and I’m forced to hit a draw around a tree and I have to try to incorporate your idiot pivot?

By: foundt

foundt — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:53:04 +0000

hahhaa this is the best!

By: nesbie

nesbie — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:44:45 +0000

Lies lies lies!!! That’s the worse swing I’ve seen and right leg straight? WTF!?!?

You don’t work for Callaway and the other guy probably just purchased a camera and decided to try it out at the golf course…

By: KalaniSurf

KalaniSurf — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:37:10 +0000

Technically speaking, perhaps the worst advice you could give to an amateur! Watch the student on his downswing as he is WAY above his backswing plane on the downswing…the clubhead would’ve imparted a left-to-right sidespin banana slice…also the teacher should take a public speaking class…to many “umms” and contradicts himself by explaining that he is on a much flatter plan, but much steeper? huh?, that is polar opposite. Please don’t insult our intelligence with this poor advice.

By: trapsmv9

trapsmv9 — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:28:08 +0000

Hogan was UNDER, then ON plane in the downswing, and he never hit a banana slice. There’s no technical reason people can’t do things with different patterns (swings), even with less practice.

This said, that also appears to be a CP swing. (Dana has since admitted he is rusty, too.) Love the sound of compression at the end. Solid. =)

By: trapsmv9

trapsmv9 — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:07:44 +0000

Watch video of Hogan and Moe Norman… What did their right legs look like?

By: KalaniSurf

KalaniSurf — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:53:40 +0000

Hogan gave excellent advice & was indeed ON plane, however Mike & Dana in the video above promote a left-to-right, watch Mike’s ballstrike at the end of the video…its heading right (slice, not a push or a block…but a SLICE!)…I am a voracious reader of Hogan and he NEVER, EVER promoted a “steeper” plane on the downswing…he was ALWAYS UNDER, then ON plane as you put it. Still wondering if Mike & Dana truly understand the bad advice they are giving to the weekend amateur.

By: trapsmv9

trapsmv9 — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:10:46 +0000

Isolating the action of the hips in the downswing, as the title of the video does state, seems to be what they want to teach. The fact that they hit a mid-low cut (which is what I meant by CP) doesn’t mean that the hip action for a high draw is really much, or any, different.

I guess it’s part semantics and part that you don’t like the action of the upper body at the end? Fair enough, but I still don’t think it’ll hurt a golfer to hit down and in front of the ball in this manner.

By: KalaniSurf

KalaniSurf — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:25:58 +0000

I still disagree…most CW promotes a smooth level hip turn, with a tilt at the waist. By straightening your knees as these guys suggest, it leaves amateurs in a “non-athletic” position thereby resulting in a possible hanging back /reverse pivot slice. Look at the footage closely, its not a mid-low cut…its a slice. Showing how to hit a fade is fine, but this swing has much more downside than upside for the weekend golfer. Balanced and smooth will always win out over straight and abrupt.

By: ddahlquist

ddahlquist — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:34:59 +0000

Kalani,
Thanks for looking at the video. Having a on plane swing is what we teach if you happen to look at our students video’s. The leg we are talking about does not have anything to do with the shaft being over the baseline plane on the downswing. I was hitting a cut shot and Mike was hitting a draw in the video, the balls crossed.